[schildkoi]

koicop, on Jan 13 2007, 12:47 PM, said:

I asked this question earlier. Here are KCOTA's responses (from another parish):

Todo addressed your question in this week's audio show where we discussed this issue. I'll address it again in the monthly newsletter wrap up of discussion topics.

When pressed to answer on the board (so everyone who'd seen the claim could see the answer), he responded thusly:

It is a fair request, but I won't burn the source. I've got the email, but it was private and I don't have permission to release that information. As it isn't a matter of national security that I can be compelled to release by being sent to jail I'll protect my source. However, from the statements I've made along with Todo there are only two individuals that it could possibly be. Now is the opportunity for koicop in my opinion to do the extra leg work to find the answer for whatever reason he is seeking it.

So there you go: He invoked Florida's Shield Law to keep from having to source an unsourced attribution! LOL

OK, I find it a tad double standard that he would quote from an email from me that was dealing with a KOI USA Business staffing issue, (without my permission...not that it was needed), and yet will not name his source? Ed Salinas and Joyce Glenn were both present at the KOI USA Board meeting this last Tuesday when the article was discussed and no negative comments were made by either. The Koi featured in the article was in fact owned by Tom and Cindy Graham, Cindy being the previous acting editor. As for KOI USA policy on articles? That "policy" as you call it is made by the editor at the time anyway. The editor is tasked with selecting articles that he feels the membership will enjoy. The overwelming response to that article and the edition in general has been highly positive.

Steve Childers

[Auntiesue]

Steve, I haven't received my copy in the mail yet, but at our local club meeting yesterday, there were a few copies floating around so I grabed one to read!!

All I can say is WOW!! Overall, this issue was by far the best I've seen published!! Koodos to you and your staff for taking this mag, that is supposed to be koi focused, and returning it to it's rightful place in our hobby!!! Keep up the great work!!! I predict that from this issue forward, this mag will definately make it's mark on the hobby and likely become one of the most desirable sources of information to us all!!!

THANK YOU STEVE for spearheading this move forward!! :2tu:

Now to those that have "issues" with article content, maybe it's time to step up the plate and submit articles that you would like to see in print!! :rasp: There should be no critisizm without a conserted effort toward a solution. (excuse the spelling :D )

Sue

[koicop]

schildkoi, on Jan 10 2007, 05:05 AM, said:

KCOTA,
I brought up your concerns on this subject last night during the KOI USA board meeting. Present were 2 former editors (Ed Salinas and Joyce Glenn) along with the rest of the board. The overwelmng consensus was one of disbelief that you or anyone else would take exception to this common and accepted practice.

As I previously stated above, shimi removal has been going on for well over 20 years and has NOT been considered as surgically altering koi. Thus, no need to go into any "moral issues." As you gain experience and common knowledge of showing koi, perhaps you will come to a better understanding of these types of issues. As stated, shimi removal is akin to "grooming."

Steve Childers
Editor
KOI USA

Steve . . .

Hot Air Hawgwash stated "As Childers wrote it and is the editor-in-chief I believe he just changed KOI USA policy by printing that piece."

Should you ever be unfortunate enough to run into him (or one of his 2 or 3 acolytes), here's a piece of trivia you can shove where the sun don't shine -- Pam Spindola beat you to it by 25 years!

Q: What causes black dots on Kohaku? What can be done to prevent them? Can they be removed?
A: This problem is found mainly in the United States due to the hard water conditions. It seems to happen where major water turnovers are made and the pH is very high. In Japan the water is soft and the problem is not as prevalent. When in competition small black spots are often overlooked. However, there are some hobbyists that like to remove the spots. In order to do so the fish must be sedated and an extremely sharp instrument must be used. There are three ways. One is to scrape the black off the scale. This only works if the color is on the suraface, and not deep. A second way is to carefully cut away a portion of the scale where the black is. Lastly, the scale may be removed. Be careful to pull the scale without lifting it so as not to disturb the surrounding scales. Remember to disinfect the area after removal. It is a drastic measure to remove a scale as it takes a long time for a scale to grow back.
Source: Questions & Answers by Jayne Cuny
KoiUSA Magazine, Mar/Apr 1982, Volume 6, Issue 5, p. 8
Editor-in-Chief: Pamela Spindola

[schildkoi]

Yepper Don,
As you and I know, HAH rarely does any research before making his "claims." That may be a good reason why many have kind of tossed him aside?

Steve

[koicop]

While some (like George Bernard Shaw) felt silence is the most perfect expression of scorn, contemptuous laughter has to be a close second.

Wrong again. HAH, HAH, HAH ;)